{"id":1655,"date":"2009-07-25T22:18:00","date_gmt":"2009-07-26T02:18:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/oddpla.net\/modernwizard\/?p=1655"},"modified":"2009-07-25T22:18:00","modified_gmt":"2009-07-26T02:18:00","slug":"the-thematically-wrong-ending-of-labyrinth","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/oddpla.net\/modernwizard\/2009\/07\/25\/the-thematically-wrong-ending-of-labyrinth\/","title":{"rendered":"The THEMATICALLY WRONG ending of Labyrinth"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Kinjou and I were talking about Labyrinth in a recent chat tonight and how the ending, in which Sarah parties with the Muppets while Jareth flies away in the form of an owl, seems like a foul misstep, thematically speaking.<\/p>\n<p>Our reasons, in conversational form, below:<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">me<\/span>: Har de har har!<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">9:27 PM <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em;\"><span>Aw man, the ending always makes me sad.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Kinjou<\/span>: [jesi says that :)]<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">  <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em;\"><span>\ud83d\ude41<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">me<\/span>: The ending music always sounds so wistful and mournful as she puts away her music box and Jareth goes flying off into the night [to catch mice, one assumes].<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">9:28 PM <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Kinjou<\/span>: It&#8217;s the end of girlhood. Some wistfulness is required, certainly.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">me<\/span>: Exactly. Very bittersweet.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Kinjou<\/span>: <b>*nods*<\/b> I had objected to the ending, myself, at the time<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">9:29 PM <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">me<\/span>: &quot;Sarah! Don&#8217;t kick out Jareth like that! He&#8217;s the strongest, most compelling part of you!&quot;<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Kinjou<\/span>: I felt that it could be worked out some way LOL eternal optimist<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">me<\/span>: &quot;Surely you can find a way to deal with him where he doesn&#8217;t have to intimidate and grovel all the time!&quot;<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Kinjou<\/span>: Indeed!<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">me<\/span>: It just felt wrong to me that she would accept all the friendly creatures, just because they were her friends, and reject Jareth, primarily because she feared him.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">9:30 PM <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em;\"><span>If you accept just what you like and kick out what you fear and do not know, you&#8217;re only doing yourself a disservice by denying yourself access to your unknown powers.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Kinjou<\/span>: But how many people have we encountered that make that choice?<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">  <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em;\"><span>Exactly that choice.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">me<\/span>: How many people accept the innocuous and reject the intimidating\/<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">  <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em;\"><span>?<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Kinjou<\/span>: Indeed.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">9:31 PM <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">me<\/span>: Lots.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">  <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em;\"><span>But the whole point of Labyrinth was that things are not always what they seem.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Kinjou<\/span>: Exactly.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">  <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em;\"><span>Honestly, if you want to know what I think, the end always read like a last minute rewrite to me<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">me<\/span>: Sarah tried to read all the other characters and play their game, but she never tried to read and understand Jareth.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">9:32 PM <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em;\"><span>The bit with the Labyrinth creatures [except for Jareth] dancing in her room?<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Kinjou<\/span>: <b>*nods*<\/b><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">me<\/span>: Yeah, that always seemed like someone&#8217;s pathetic excuse for a happy ending. &quot;Yeah, we can&#8217;t let go of the cutesy comedic Muppets!&quot;<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">9:33 PM <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Kinjou<\/span>: I always felt that the film <b>really<\/b> ended with her saying goodbye to her girlhood, a really bittersweet ending that test audiences didn&#8217;t care for.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">  <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em;\"><span>So many films have been botched by rewrites from the reactions of test audiences <b>*facepalm*<\/b> I can almost always see them<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">9:34 PM <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">me<\/span>: I do like the owl watching her and then flying into the moon and the end credits, a nice mirror for the beginning of the film, Jareth watching over her as he was at the beginning, always intruding on the edge of her reality, maybe looking for a way in.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">  <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em;\"><span>Yeah, they&#8217;re so FORCED.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Kinjou<\/span>: Exactly.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">me<\/span>: Cut out the stupid party with the creatures, and end it with Sarah closing away her music box, Jareth the owl watching, then soaring away into the moon.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">  <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em;\"><span>CUT.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">9:35 PM <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em;\"><span>AND&#8230;scene.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Kinjou<\/span>: The ending seemed a hasty rewrite with the screenwriter trying desperately to preserve the integrity of the story by presenting Jareth as transformed into a guardian figure<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">me<\/span>: But, with that stupid party, it just looks not like Jareth&#8217;s the watcher, as he is in the beginning, but the pathetic dude who didn&#8217;t get invited to the shindig.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">  <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em;\"><span>HAHAHAHAHAH, WALLFLOWER!<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">  <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em;\"><span>NO SCRABBLE FOR YOU!<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">9:36 PM <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em;\"><span>[Ref Sir Didymus&#8217; quote at the end: I say, anyone for a game of Scrabble?]<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Kinjou<\/span>: There are a lot of films that I want to give the Kinjou Director&#8217;s Cut LOL<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">me<\/span>: I agree. I&#8217;d take out that stupid party.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">9:37 PM <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em;\"><span>It makes no sense.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">  <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em;\"><span>I mean, Sarah purposely confronted Jareth alone, rejecting the Muppets.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Kinjou<\/span>: &quot;PERFECT! STOP THE STORY THERE!&#8230;..Aw, shit, it&#8217;s going to go on for another fifteen minutes for no reason. x.x&quot;<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">me<\/span>: She realized that she had to find the strength in herself to stand up to the menacing parts of herself.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">  <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em;\"><span>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! &quot;SCENE! SCENE! Goddammit, SCENE!&quot;<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">9:38 PM <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em;\"><span>So she told the Muppets to go away before she won back Toby all on her very own, but then she brought them back around in a little schmaltzy moment when she admitted, after putting signs of her childhood away, that she needed them &quot;for no reason at all.&quot;<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Kinjou<\/span>: It should have ended with her embracing and comforting Jareth. That would have been a much more satisfying (and sane) ending. Then him flying off into the moon, always watchful, no longer menacing, the wise half of herself.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">9:39 PM <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">me<\/span>: Now I acknowledge that one does like to indulge one&#8217;s Muppet equivalents sometimes, no matter what one&#8217;s age, but that admission from her seemed so sobby and wimpy and not characteristic of the new, strong, caring Sarah, more sure in her power than she was at the beginning.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">9:40 PM <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Kinjou<\/span>: The thing is, it was all about <b>choice<\/b>. So by all rights, she could now <b>choose<\/b> when or when not to interact with Jareth &amp; the other beings.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">  <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em;\"><span>And on what terms.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">me<\/span>: In my mind, Jareth as he appears in Labyrinth was immature and petulant and demanding and egotistical because Sarah was.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">  <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em;\"><span>The whole story was about her maturing. When she rejected him, she rejected that overbearing form of him.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Kinjou<\/span>: Exactly. Which is why I see the owl transformation as Wise Guardian<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">9:41 PM <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">me<\/span>: He flew away, OUT OF THAT FORM, but not necessarily out of her life. He&#8217;s still there, as the guardian, but now that she has grown, he too has broken from his petulant, childish role.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Kinjou<\/span>: Exactly.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">  <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em;\"><span>The whole &quot;muppet party&quot; thing muddies the symbolism<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">me<\/span>: He can draw back and take what HE himself has learned, along with what SHE herself has learned, and wait till the time is right to approach her again.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">  <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em;\"><span>Yes, yes, it muddies the symbolism. Exactly.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">9:42 PM <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em;\"><span>It makes Sarah seem retrograde, as if she truly didn&#8217;t learn the proper place for her mental Muppets.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Kinjou<\/span>: <b>*nods vigorously*<\/b><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">9:43 PM <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">me<\/span>: I think that Hoggle&#8217;s offer of &quot;Should you need us&#8230;&quot; was fine, along with her response of, &quot;I&#8217;ll call.&quot;<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Kinjou<\/span>: The thing is, it wasn&#8217;t until now that an American audience was ready, cinematically speaking, for the deeper basis of faerieland stories<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">me<\/span>: Then CUT TO Jareth flying away, with the connection implicit that Sarah might call him too, if she ever acquired the maturity and brains to approach the deeper meanings of her adventure.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">9:44 PM <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em;\"><span>You&#8217;re right; there&#8217;s a lot of superficial fairyland wankery in the muddled ending that screws up the wild power of Jareth and his land.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Kinjou<\/span>: Yes. It would also have held the additional symbolism of one&#8217;s dark side being everpresent<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">me<\/span>: [And the FIREYS? They wanted to kill Sarah by taking off her head. So why are they at the party and Jareth is absent?]<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">9:45 PM <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em;\"><span>In Legend, speaking of darkness everpresent,<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">  <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em;\"><span>Darkness tells Pantsless Tom Cruise&#8217;s character that they are &quot;brothers eternal&quot; and it ends with Darkness superimposed on Tom Cruise, laughing into fade-out, a much broodier and truer ending than Labyrinth was permitted.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">9:46 PM <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Kinjou<\/span>: <b>*nods*<\/b> and, like the first two films, &quot;Legend&quot; was also a dismal commercial failure that has achieved cult status<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">me<\/span>: But nooooooooooo. With Labyrinth we get a ending in which Sarah<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">  <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em;\"><span>actively chooses only the light, frothy, happy, easy-to-deal-with characters and actively rejects complexity, ambiguity and insight.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">9:47 PM <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em;\"><span>She keeps all the Muppets and boots out the only other human, which I always thought was weird.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Kinjou<\/span>: <b>*nods*<\/b> which is why I think that it&#8217;s a rewrite, otherwise her making a <b>bad<\/b> choice would have been more indicated.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">me<\/span>: He has the same form as her; he is humanoid, as she is, of the same kind, unlike all the others.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">9:48 PM <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em;\"><span>Therefore he is the most like her, which makes me think that he is of the same stuff as her, as part of her.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Kinjou<\/span>: <b>*nods*<\/b>! which makes the connection between them much more obvious, btw<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">me<\/span>: No shit &#8212; to me and you at least.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Kinjou<\/span>: There is part of Jareth that is quite human, and relatable<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\"> <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">me<\/span>: And she booted out the part of herself that was the most human and powerful and magical and ambiguous and threatening&#8230;<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">  <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em;\"><span>Probably BECAUSE she was threatened by his similarity to her.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);\">9:49 PM <\/span><span style=\"display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Kinjou<\/span>: Well, it makes sense that she&#8217;d initially be frightened of him on that basis.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Kinjou and I were talking about Labyrinth in a recent chat tonight and how the ending, in which Sarah parties with the Muppets while Jareth flies away in the form of an owl, seems like a foul misstep, thematically speaking. Our reasons, in conversational form, below: me: Har de har har! 9:27 PM Aw man,&#8230; <a href=\"http:\/\/oddpla.net\/modernwizard\/2009\/07\/25\/the-thematically-wrong-ending-of-labyrinth\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">The THEMATICALLY WRONG ending of Labyrinth<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1655","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/oddpla.net\/modernwizard\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1655","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/oddpla.net\/modernwizard\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/oddpla.net\/modernwizard\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/oddpla.net\/modernwizard\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/oddpla.net\/modernwizard\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1655"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/oddpla.net\/modernwizard\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1655\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/oddpla.net\/modernwizard\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1655"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/oddpla.net\/modernwizard\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1655"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/oddpla.net\/modernwizard\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1655"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}